Pop-under Ads: Why Do Publishers Still Use Them?

Pop-under ads, an advertising method I thought had all but died out, seem to be making a comeback on a few websites I frequent.

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It’s these advertisements that fueled the creation of the pop-up blocker, and they surely helped fuel the adoption of the Mozilla family of web browsers.

Even with pop-up blockers these advertisements are becoming a more prevalent part of my web browsing experience. Publishers place pop-under advertisement code in their pages so that a pop-under ad is created when a user clicks a link on the page (or in some cases anywhere on the page), thus circumventing the pop-up blocker, as it appears the browser requested the new window.

Large advertising networks like Undertone and Tribal Fusion offer a pop-under service, and some publishers are reaping the benefits of this annoying method of advertising.

One publisher that is profiting from pop-unders and loving it is MySanAntonio.comClomid “My doctor prescribed Clomid® and told me how to use it but I don’t get my period every month. Money Back Guarantee. >. See this quote from Undertone’s testimonial page:

We have a long-standing partnership with Undertone Networks. As our top pop-under partner, Undertone provides us with reliable revenue every month that helps our bottom line. We enjoy the top advertisers Undertone brings to our website and the exceptional customer service they provide.

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If, however, you’re the manager of a large corporate website you see the $$ signs and overlook the fact that it makes your users unhappy. You’re only concerned about the website’s bottom line (you don’t want to lose your job, after all).

Most of these large sites aren’t going to lose visitors as the result of using pop-unders because of the unique content they provide, and advertisers must see some benefit from the ads or they wouldn’t pay for them.

I’ve got no special analytics to help my cause here, mostly because it’s not really something you can measure.

You can’t measure the affect a pop-under has on your entire business, because it’s not something clear cut like a click-through ratio.

It’s like a shipping company with a bad truck driver. If I don’t call the 1-800-bad-driver number to report how much the trucker’s bad driving causes me to despise their shipping company then I simply vow never to use the service and hope they notice.

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I wonder if these practices affect a business’ bottom line, and I wonder if they even know or care.

They’ve got a click-through ratio to backup their ad spending, something that will surely impress the boss, but is it hurting them as a company?

We may never know, but I’d like to hear your thoughts. Do you vow to never use a service because of annoying pop-unders? Do you think these businesses care more about you or their fancy stats?

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  • 12 Comments so far »

    1. Wild Bluff Matt said

      on February 26 2007 @ 1:23 pm

      It seems very out of fashion to be trying those tactics with pop-unders. FF blocks pop-unders though, right? Or just pop-ups? What’s ESPN doing w/ that sort of stuff anyways? I can’t imagine they’re hurting that much for ad revenue these days.

      I like the idea of not supporting those sites. You could get a list going of the offenders.

    2. Ryan J. Parker said

      on February 26 2007 @ 3:59 pm

      A pop-under is technically a pop-up that simply gets placed behind the parent window. The reason these get through is because they’re associated with clicking on a link or the page itself. The pop-up blockers are built to only allow pop-ups that you request, and in these cases it appears as if you really wanted the pop-under!

      I’m going to try and make a list of advertisers I see using them, and the two that come quick to mind are Vonage and Southern Wesleyan (and of course some dating service that promises to get you women).

    3. Wild Bluff Matt said

      on February 26 2007 @ 4:13 pm

      Yeah, those websites that promise women are a total crock. I ordered one from them and when it arrived turned out they didn’t include enough ice. It was a total disaster. Thanks a lot Russia!

    4. Stuart said

      on February 26 2007 @ 7:56 pm

      Yeah, I though pop-unders would be gone but a lot of people actually don’t have pop-up blockers installed so maybe they are still trying to get those who don’t use it.

    5. Ryan J. Parker said

      on February 26 2007 @ 8:21 pm

      @Matt, now I don’t think those are the type of sites that are being advertised, but I’m sorry to hear about your misfortune. :D

      @Stuart, yeah there are a lot of people that let it all through, but it doesn’t help that the JavaScript is placed on links you want to click so that the pop-up blocker thinks you actually requested the window so it doesn’t get blocked.

    6. HMTKSteve said

      on February 27 2007 @ 11:37 am

      I have never liked pop-up or pop-under ads.

      The most annoying thing is when you close a browser window and it spawns a new one!

      What tag was that?

    7. Ryan J. Parker said

      on February 27 2007 @ 12:24 pm

      I believe it was an onClose variation (window, document, something like that).

    8. Allen.H said

      on March 1 2007 @ 6:13 am

      Pop under ads can be highly profitable for webmasters with non-tech savvy readers, take lyric sites and entertainment sites like ebaumsworld, it makes them a lot of money and they have come to a point where SE’s alone are sending them enough traffic to not care about the navigation or the surfing experience.

      Allen.H

    9. Ryan J. Parker said

      on March 1 2007 @ 9:42 am

      Allen, for sure the publisher’s don’t care, and those are the type of “renegade” sites I was referring to.

      I would still like to see large sites like ESPN get rid of them.

    10. TV Spoilers said

      on September 22 2009 @ 9:46 am

      Noticing this post is 2 years old but the question and the pop-unders are still valid.

      I am sorely disappointed in websites that use this ad tactic.
      You’re so right about it being high-volume sites, too.

      They must see their numbers are converting or they wouldn’t do it.

    11. vektörel said

      on December 18 2009 @ 11:48 pm

      The most annoying thing is when you close a browser window and it spawns a new one!

    12. used tires said

      on January 5 2010 @ 5:23 pm

      And thats why popup blockers that I have work wonders for this :D

      Till then,

      Jean

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